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Including dates with DIE SO FLUID! ON TOUR NOW! Tickets at Eventful.com

Fri. Oct. 3 House Of Blues - Las Vegas, NV (w/ Die So Fluid)
Sat. Oct. 4 House Of Blues - San Diego, CA (w/ Die So Fluid)
Sun. Oct. 5 Rialto Theatre - Tucson, AZ (w/ Die So Fluid)
Tue. Oct. 7 Tequila Jungle - Lubbock, TX (w/ Die So Fluid)
Thur. Oct. 9 Diamond Ballroom - Oklahoma City, OK (w/ Die So Fluid)
Fri. Oct. 10 Cain's Ballroom - Tulsa, OK (w/ Die So Fluid)
Sat. Oct. 11 The Village - Little Rock, AR (w/ Die So Fluid)
Sun. Oct. 12 The New Daisy Theatre - Memphis, TN (w/ Die So Fluid)
Tue. Oct. 14 Work Play Theatre - Birmingham, AL (w/ Die So Fluid)
Thur. Oct. 16 Scout Bar - San Antonio, TX (w/ Die So Fluid)

SHINY TOY GUNS ON TOUR NOW! myspace.com/shinytoyguns

MUSHROOMHEAD ON TOUR OCT, NOV, DEC! myspace.com/mushroomhead

LADYTRON Portugal, Australian, European (ON TOUR NOW! SEPT thru DEC 2008) myspace.com/ladytron

IN THIS MOMENT / FIVE FINGER DEATH PUNCH TOUR BEGINNING OCT. 3RD!
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DEATH PILOT ON TOUR! Sept thru Oct myspace.com/deathpilotmusic

THE BIRTHDAY MASSACRE ON TOUR AUSTRALIA / U.S.!
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Nov 20 - The Step Inn - Brisbane
Nov 21 - Manning Bar - Sydney
Nov 22 - Central Club Hotel - Melbourne
Nov 23 - Gilkisons - Perth
Nov 26 - Key Club - West Hollywood, CA
Nov 28 - San Diego, CA
Nov 29 - The Glass House - Pomona, CA
Nov 30 - Slim’s - San Francisco, CA

OPUS DAI ON TOUR NOW! myspace.com/opusdai

KILLOLA TOUR ON TOUR NOW! myspace.com/killola

MON. OCT. 6

M LAZAR openning for DEBBIE HARRY@ Highline Ballroom w/ Bloody Social, Jesse Malin, more! myspace.com/mlazar

FRI. OCT. 17

TOADIES Majestic Theatre - Detroit, MI

SAT. OCT. 18

THE AGONIST Café-théâtre Côté-Cour w/Profugus Mortis - Jonquiere, Quebec

SAT. OCT. 25

OPUS DAI Pre-Halloween Party @ The Whisky a Go Go, Hollywood
JEREMIAH SAINT w/ PHASE THEORY & Asomdous x Play NUMBERs - Houston, Texas
20 GRIT Brookdale Inn & Spa - Brookdale, CA



Interview By G. Cataline


DIE SO FLUID
(London, UK)

HOW DID YOU ALL COME TO KNOW EACHOTHER, AND WHAT WERE YOU ALL DOING BEFORE THIS BAND? WE NOTICED GROG DID SOME WORK WITH THE OSBOURNES AND OTHER ARTISTS AS WELL .... HOW DID YOU FIRST MEET THEM?

Grog: We’ve all known each other for a long time. I met Drew while I was at art college in London. He managed my first band for a while, and then I brought him in as guitarist for the next project I did called Feline. Al was playing in a band we saw on the scene at the time, and we had to have him. Drew embarked on a long courtship to woe him away from those alcoholics he was hanging around with. Between the three of us we have a wealth of experience to draw upon which gives the music a colourful language of it’s own. Drew grew up in Jamaica, and then moved here to discover bands like The Cure, catching them live at a very young age, and hanging out with Mick Ronson! Al was also drumming from an early age which saw him jamming with older acid inspired eccentrics and bundled off to Hawkwind gigs and all kinds of wild happenings, he went on to drum with many artists including ska acts such as ‘The Selecter’ and he has a grammy for an album he recorded with Lee Scratch Perry. For my part I ‘found’ my voice with my first band, and it made sense of my life. I’m always driven to make my own music, but friends and contacts have occasionally thrown opportunities my way to play bass and do backing vocals for people such as Melanie C, Kelly Osbourne (and piano in appearances with her dad), Dave Rowntree (from Blur). I don’t need to take up any offers now, ( I recently declined requests from Brian Ferry and Kylie) as DSF is busy and funding itself. It was playing for Melanie that paid for the first album, ‘Spawn of Dysfunction’ to be recorded.

WHERE WERE SOME OF YOUR FIRST LIVE PERFORMANCES WITH DIE SO FLUID?

Grog: We played on the top of a double decker bus at the Bulldog Bash! It’s a biker festival in the UK run by Hell’s Angels. They had to man-handle our amps up the stairs for us, but they were very charming about it.

IT SEEMS YOU ARE EVERYWHERE IN THE PRESS... ROCKSOUND, ALTERNATIVE MAGAZINE, CLASSIC ROCK... YOU ARE LIKED BY SO MANY!! AND WE ARE SO EXCITED ABOUT YOU COMING TO THE U.S.! CAN YOU GIVE US ANY INCITE AS TO WHAT THIS TOUR IS GOING TO ENTAIL?

Drew: Well I’ll tell you, we don’t fuck around. We just plug in and rock. Maybe later tours we’ll put on a big production with shark tanks on stage and a massive wire-suspended Kung Fu sequence, but for now, come down, buy a beer and listen.

HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT ABOUT ADDING A SECOND GUITARIST, OR WILL THERE BE ANY MUSICIANS ADDED FOR THE TOUR AT ALL? MAYBE KEYS OR SYNTH?

Drew: What are you after a job or something? People who’ve seen us live generally don’t ask that. Being a raw three piece has a distinct appeal all of it’s own and it’s a fresh flavour when the majority of bands who play our style of music are so multi-layered. We tried out some second guitarists before we recorded “Spawn Of Dysfunction,” but we just were not comfortable inviting any strangers into our little world. We’re a bit Adams Family I’m Afraid.

WHY DID IT TAKE SO LONG FOR YOUR DEBUT, "SPAWN OF DYSFUNCTION" TO REACH THE U.S. WHEN IT WAS FIRST RELEASED, DID YOU ENCOUNTER DIFFICULTIES WITH DISTRIBUTION?

Drew: No, there simply weren’t any grand plans for the first album other than to get it on the shelves of our local Woolworth’s. It has just sort of grown globally bit by bit. It’s weird how you can create something like a record, and then it just seems to have a life of it’s own. Mind you, four years to reach the U.S. - Lazy bastard!

WHO DID THE ARTWORK FOR "NOT EVERYONE GETS A HAPPY ENDING," AND WHAT ABOUT "SPAWN OF DYSFUNCTION"... WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THE COVER, CAN YOU TELL US?

Drew: Vania Zouravliov did both covers. He is a collosal pervert who never does any cleaning. I know this because me and Grog shared a house with him for years. The “Spawn Of Dysfunction” cover is a more literal interpretation of the title track with Grog giving birth alone in the middle of a street. The “Not Everyone Gets A Happy Ending” cover is inspired more by European mythology, which is featured in songs like “Vorvolaka” and the subject of the picture isn’t Grog, but represents the fighter side of her psyche as in the song, “Gang Of One.”

GROG, WHEN DID YOU FIRST START USING THE PROMETHEA CHARACTER IN YOUR WRITINGS AND SUCH, AND SINCE THERE ARE CONFLICTING STORIES ON HER CHARACTER... WHO IS SHE TO YOU?

Grog: I am a fan of Alan Moore the graphic novelist, and the story of Promethea strikes a chord with me. My favourite superhero(ine) was Wonderwoman when I was little ( I used to jump off my dad’s ladder pretending to fly wearing a leotard and tall ladies boots I got from a jumble sale,) they have a striking resemblance! The idea in the novel is that anyone with the imagination and enthusiasm for the character can channel and become Promethea , thus keeping her alive. She is a powerful living idea who grew up in the realm where dreams and stories come from, with the ability to wander into the mortal world. The idea of assuming the identity of this mystic warrior inspires me and keeps me strong when the going gets tough! Drew composed the soundtrack to the feature documentary film ‘The Mindscape of Alan Moore’ to which I contributed some spooky vocals. We were both lucky enough to have lunch with Alan where he treated us to his Ali G impersonations.

“VORVOLAKA” IS AN AMAZING SONG! WHAT OR WHO IS “VORVOLAKA” AND WHAT INSPIRED YOU TO WRITE ABOUT IT?

Grog: I saw a Boris Karloff film called ‘Isle of the Dead’ where a young girl is accused of being a vorvolaka. A vorvolaka is a type of harmful undead being like a vampire in Greek folklore. It was the idea of your actions being controlled by an outside force that interested me.

ANOTHER SONG I FOUND VERY INTERESTING IS "THROW YOU AWAY" WHICH ALSO APPEARS ON THE "NOT EVERYONE GETS A HAPPY ENDING" RECORD... CAN YOU GIVE US SOME INSIGHT ABOUT THIS SONG?

Grog: It’s a song about an artist’s struggle to maintain their innocence and optimism despite endless trials, obstacles, rejection and endeavours, only to be ripped off and used along the way, and how that can eventually sully their perception of what they originally loved about the world.

DO SONGS USUALLY COME QUICKLY FOR YOU, OR DO YOU WORK ON THEM ON AND OFF THROUGHOUT LONG STRETCHES OF TIME?

Drew: We slowly collect ideas over a long time and then have a sudden burst of gluing them together - usually just before a recording session. Overall, we’re not the fastest it’s fair to say, but that’s generally Al’s fault. He’s the quality controller of the band, but he’s slightly schizo and forgets that he’s vetoed something and then asks why we’ve stopped developing it. So we start playing it again, and then he goes “that’s shit”. He’s a pleasure to be around - really!

GROG, HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN PLAYING BASS, AND WAS IT YOUR FIRST INSTRUMENT? DO YOU PLAY OTHERS?

Grog: I’ve been playing bass for about 15 years. Piano was the first instrument I learnt, and also the clarinet.

IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D DO DIFFERENTLY, IF YOU HAD THE CHANCE TO DO IT OVER AGAIN?

Drew: That’s a really weird question to answer, because it’s so retrospective. I kind of think I’ve got more to look forward to than regret what I’ve done right now. I think what happens over the next year will really spell out whether I’ve taken the correct fork in the road. I’m relishing the journey regardless.

AS A "DIY" BAND, WHAT IS YOUR BEST ADVISE FOR TALENTED, SELLABLE BANDS WHO HAVE NO LABEL SUPPORT?

Drew: There’s never been a time where this ethic has been more pertinent than now. As a musician I can, in one afternoon, record and distribute a song worldwide - and all without leaving my house. The problem is, everyone else can do the same thing, so I think the challenge for new bands now, is to stick out from the other suckers and to be present in the world outside of the internet. My advice would be “make friends with MUEN (and perhaps a few hundred other notable publications and radio stations).

HAHA! THANK YOU! WHAT TYPE OF THINGS ARE YOU MOST INTERESTED IN, THAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE MUSIC? ALTHOUGH IT MAY INSPIRE IT STILL...

Grog: All the things I’m interested in feed my writing, these include the kitsch and the kooky, making and customising clothes, alternative fashion and style, inspirational film and books, photography, art, horror, going to gigs (oops that’s music), new ideas, talented people, the history of places and people, old buildings and architecture, travel, walking in woods, cemeteries, pirates, cats, tarot, gypsies and shoes.

SO TELL US, HOW DID YOUR TRIP AND LIVE PERFORMANCE GO IN PORTUGAL THE OTHER NIGHT?

Grog: We owned it, hehe! It was our first trip to Portugal, and what a beautiful country. The people were very warm and friendly. Honestly I didn't know what to expect, but judging by the encore, the reception and the amount of autographs after the show - I guess we made an impact! We definitely want to go back for some more shows. I've always been drawn to the symbol of the Nando's chicken and now I know why.

OK, YOU NOW HAVE 10 SHOWS COMING UP IN OCTOBER WITH MINDLESS SELF INDULGENCE... WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT?

Grog: I absolutely cannot wait!! We were holding out for the right band to tour with for our first extended visit cos the U.S is very important to us. We feel we have a big audience there and we are preparing to work our asses off to find them all and welcome them into our dysfunctional family! When we found out we'd been offered main support to MSI we couldn't believe it, we just said 'yes this is the one'. We're into their music and ethos, I think we have something in common when it comes to our independent approach to business, and our determination to retain our individuality. And maybe our hair =D. We've signed contracts promising not to incite riots so Al might have to keep his shirt on and I'll have to be careful which catsuits I wear, hehe. Anyway, it's the most awesome way we could introduce ourselves to the US and we're excited as hell. Bring it on!

DREW, WHAT TYPE OF GEAR DO YOU USE, TO GET YOUR AMBIENT SOUND?

Drew: I don't know what you mean by 'ambient'. My sound is ambivalent - it doesn't know if it's steve jones or john mcgeogh. I use all those line six pedals for flowery stuff but most of the time it's straight into the amp, no fuzz box - smoking guitar.

HOW ABOUT YOU AL? I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE INSPIRED BY BONHAM... YOU SORT OF REMIND ME OF A DAVID GROHL A LITTLE AS WELL.. DID YOU LIKE NIRVANA AT ALL?

Al: Dave Grohl is a huge influence, Jimmy Chamberlaine, and Stuart Copeland. Nirvana gave a new take on punk and kicked back against traddy Guns n Roses type rock, it gave us an antidote.

GROG, A WOMAN ON BASS GUITAR HAS ALWAYS INTERESTED ME... SEEMS LIKE THE STRINGS WOULD BE TOUGH TO TACKLE.. DO YOU ALWAYS USE A PIC?

Grog: Yeah, I pretty much always use a pic because I prefer the sound it makes. I don’t use the pointed end, I use the opposite corner, perverted I know..I don’t find it limitting, in fact the opposite, but I do have a signature sound and I hit those babies hard!

THE LAST VIDEO YOU PUT OUT, "EXISTENTIAL BABY" WAS SPECTACULAR! WHO DID YOU WORK WITH TO PRODUCE THAT, AND ARE THERE ANY MORE COMING UP ON THE HORIZON?

Grog: Cheers! We worked with Paul Harries (reknowned UK Kerang! photographer), and professional movie cameraman Ray Moody, they made a great team and I loved the monochrome look they achieved. We went out to Arizona earlier this year to shoot a live dvd and also some desert footage for a video for the song ‘Test Confessional’ . We’ve also just shot some extra footage here in a London crypt and we’ll be editting that soon. We plan to edit this one ourselves, as we did for the ‘Happy Hallowe’en’ video. We enjoy having a strong hand in our videos because it conveys the character of the band and it’s more personal.

WILL YOU BE PERFORMING ANY SONGS THAT DO NOT EXIST ON THE ALBUMS, WHILE YOU ARE ON TOUR?

Grog: We’ve decided to include at least one brand new track which we’ve written for the third album. But don’t worry we’ll be playing all the corkers, and we want you to learn the words!

WHAT IS YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE BAND "MY RUIN"?

Grog: We toured with them in January in the UK, it was big rock fun and we’re good friends. It’s always a pleasure to go on the road with bands we respect who are friendly and don’t have their heads wedged up their ass!

WHAT IS THE MOST DREADED THING ABOUT THE MUSIC INDUSTRY IN GENERAL FOR YOU?

Al: Simon Cowell

WHAT IS THE MOST REWARDING THING ABOUT IT?

Drew: Casey Kasem! Making good music is a reward in itself, sometimes you feel like you’re just the vessel this magic passes through! The connection with the fans is the ultimate reward, in the live scenario but also hearing when our music has helped people get through stuff. I’ve had a girl come up to me and thank me for helping her summon the strength to leave her abusive partner, she was listening to’ Kiss The Floor’ all through that period of time. It made me want to cry the way she described it.

WHAT STYLE BASS DO YOU USE, AND WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE MUSIC GEAR, AND WHY?

Grog: I play a G&L Tribute 4 string. I hope to get an American G& L one day, but I adore my guitar. We tune to D with a drop C for nearly all our songs so we get that real depth to our sound. We’re endorsed by Hughes and Kettner and I’ve played through their bass base 600 for several years now, it compliments the sound of my bass. Also through the years I’ve tried out and stomped to death a selection of pedals and I swear by my Sansamp now. I use it for distortion and it’s also a DI. Not only do you not loose any bass end, it’s the only metal box that can withstand the heavy impact of my stamping foot of doom-haha.

WAS THERE EVER A TIME THAT "DIE SO FLUID" THOUGHT ABOUT BREAKING UP?

Grog: There was a year when we took time out because of serious illness, we had a run of extreme bad luck, I had an adverse reaction to alcohol and nearly died, Drew got M.E., our van was stolen with half my possessions inside it, from outside a police station, and then I took on a lot of session work to pay the bills , but through all this we never considered breaking up. If anything it strengthened our resolve, and the spirit of this went into our debut album.

HEALTH FOOD OR JUNK FOOD?

Grog: Both. Why deprive yourself of anything!

WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE DRINK OF CHOICE, WHETHER IT BE ALCOHOL OR A BEVERAGE... WHAT DRINK WOULD YOU ENDORSE?

Al: At last-the perfect question for me! The most accomplished drinker of the band. I like lager. and I’ll have scotch whiskey please!

CAN YOU GIVE US A LYRIC LINE FROM A SONG OF YOURS THAT IS NOT ON RECORD YET?

Grog: “In his red courtyard corpses swing to the rhythm of the chaos that he brings….” And if I hear that on the radio next week I’ll sue!!

WHAT EXCITES YOU THE MOST ABOUT TOURING THE U.S.? AND WHAT PART OF THE U.S. ARE YOU MOST INTERESTED IN VISITING WHETHER IT BE MUSIC RELATED OR NOT?

Grog: I’ve been to LA, NY and the East coast but never to any of the places on this tour, so I’m really excited. We’re particularly pleased to be kicking off in Vegas! I suppose as ‘Limeys’ we have a glamorised concept of the US from the movies, so it’ll be a chance to see what each place is really like. But I’ll still be fantasising about Bonny and Clyde, Natural Born Killers, True Romance, Pulp Fiction, Wild at Heart……

Al: I like the breakfasts. They’re all good, and I want ‘Moons over Mi- Hammy’ at Denny’s.

Grog: We’ll be in Birmingham on Al’s birthday (hint hint…)

WE HEAR YOU'RE LOOKING FOR OTHER ARTISTS TO TOUR WITH IN TH U.S., AFTER THE MSI TOUR, HOW SHOULD THOSE PARTIES INTERESTED GO ABOUT CONTACTING FOR BOOKING?

Grog: Yes, we’re sticking around and we mean business! They should write to us on myspace: http://www.myspace.com/diesofluid

ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD?

Grog: To any fans coming to the Birmingham show-please buy Al some new T shirts for his birthday, he has no clothes cos he takes them off after every gig and always leaves the sweaty trail of sopping carnage behind him =D!

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Here are some quotes from DIE SO FLUID's new fans who have seen them recently on the MSI tour: "I went 2 see u guys at house of blues san diego when i went to see msi and u got my hand cuz i was in the front row...i will never forget that"... "Went to see Mindless Self Indulgence at house of Blues you guys were amaaa-zaaa-zing<333"... "I loved you guys tonight at The Rialto!!! Grog you are my hero!!"... "HoB Las Vegas. I have to say that you guys fucking rock. Also, Grog gave me a hug... and it fucking rocked also."... "Wow, that was a great show last night (go to see MSI and getting introduced to Die So Fluid. Grog you have more balls in you’re larynx than all the dudes in Dearwhatthefuck... "You were amazing last night in Tucson! I cant wait to see you all again!"... "u rocked the house of blues! I'll be sure to be at ur next show"... "You put on a good show last night can't wait till you come back so i can see you again!"... "Saw you last night in TUCSON, great show!! Hope to see you again soon!"... "Anyone that writes songs about Halloween is awesome."... OK, now wake the fuck up, shall we? OTEP TOUR COMING: Big tour coming up beginning Oct. 27 in New Port Richie, Florida. Ending Nov. 30 at The Key Club in Los Angeles. Check out the interview with Otep Shamaya in MUEN Magazine, also here is a good filmed interview on Spread TV with Dave Navarro HERE ... Check out the INTERVIEW with Sal of SWORN ENEMY Slavewriter6 Interviews Sal of SWORN ENEMY, just off their European Tour, check it at myspace.com/slavewriter6 Also don't miss Slavewriter's upcoming interview with Danny Marino of THE AGONIST from Canada! myspace.com/theagonist ...



SUICIDE SILENCE
(Alex: Drums)
Interview by Heff

This past inaugural Rockstar Mayhem tour (featuring Slipknot, Disturbed, DragonForce, Mastadon, Machine Head, UnderOath, Walls Of Jericho, Five Finger Death Punch, Airbourne, Black Tide, The Red Chord, Suicide Silence and 36 Crazyfists) brought a reality dose of metal/rock to the world this summer. I had the pleasure traveling the entire tour and caught up with Suicide Silence's drummer Alex…

MUEN: Hey dude, thanks for taking some time and answering a few questions for MUEN magazine. First off, how has the tour been treating you so far?

Alex: Amazing! This is the best tour we have ever done. This is the most people we have ever played in front of and we are reaching out to kids who are into more mainstream music. We are used to playing with non mainstream bands and playing in front of new people is awesome.

MUEN: Since there is such a wide variety of rock/metal on this tour, how do you go about making new fans to someone who has never been exposed to your music?

Alex: Fans want to see a good show. We try to accomplish this by exposing them to our live show and blow their heads off with our riffs. Every day we gain new fans!

MUEN: Any tour horror stories?

Alex: I threw up 9 times at the Five Finger Death Punch party. I was pre-gaming and afterwards I drank a lot at the party. Shawn Kenny from Rat Sound made me do Jager shots and after every shot I was like, I am going to throw up. Afterwards I went back to my bus and vomited three times, drank some water, threw up even more.

MUEN: Being that your set times change from day to day, do you feel being on the second stage a burden or do you prefer it?

Alex: We love playing on the second stage. Playing first, second, third is the best because the crowd is fresh. By 5pm everyone is tired! We try to set the stage for the day ahead.

MUEN: I know you are out there everyday meeting your fans. Do you have any good stories about that?

I met a guy who had a testicle the size of a mango and decided to show it to me. I ran into again and he showed me and every time I met him he would show me his testicles. This thing is huge and keeps getting bigger and bigger. I keep telling him he should get it looked at.

MUEN: Ok, Thanks for taking the time Alex!



Photo by Paul Harries

MINDLESS SELF INDULGENCE
(Jimmy Urine, NYC)
Summer 2008
By G. Cataline

MUEN: HELLO JIMMY, WHAT AN ABSOLUTE HONOR TO INTERVIEW YOU! WE LOVE WHEN WE COME ACROSS A BAND THAT CAN BE CUTTING EDGE, BUT YET STILL HAVE THAT APPEAL POWERFUL ENOUGH TO LEAP ACROSS THE GENRES AND WIN THE HEARTS OF EVEN THE MOST SKEPTIC BASTARDS... HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?

JIMMY URINE: Because we slip Roofies in your musical drinx and now we are gonna date rape your ideas of what is possible!

MUEN: ARE YOU ALL ORIGINALLY FROM THE NEW YORK AREA, OR DID SOME OF YOU COME FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY?

JIMMY URINE: We are so originally from NYC that we can't afford to live there anymore.

MUEN: IT WAS JUST YOU BACK IN 1989 RIGHT? AND YOU EVEN HAD AN ALBUM NAMED MSI? YOU WERE SOLO AND WORKING WITH STEVE RIGH? (correct spelling), BUT IT WASN'T UNTIL 1999 THAT YOU WERE CONSIDERED A FULL BAND.. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY IT WENT FROM SOLO TO A FULL BAND, AND HOW DID YOU MEET LYN-Z AND KITTY TO LATER FORM THE FULL VERSION OF MSI?

JIMMY URINE: Why don't you tell me it's obvious you spy on me, you fuckin' stalker!

MUEN: AND SO JIMMY AND STEVE'S SIDE PROJECT CALLED "THE LEFT RIGHTS" IS REALLY JUST WHAT YOU WERE DOING BEFORE MSI AS A FULL BAND, RIGHT?

JIMMY URINE: Nope, it was what me and Steve needed to do to infuse positivity in Latino, Asian, and African American communities...

MUEN: WHY DO YOU CALL YOURSELVES THE LEFT RIGHTS? IS IT POLITICALLY MOTIVATED? DOES IT MEAN THE CENTER?

JIMMY URINE: Uh.. wow! You're thinking about it way too much. You should be a teacher or something ... don't be a writer, that is a nowhere job for God's sakes, don't squander your true calling!

MUEN: MINDLESS SELF INDULGENCE IS A BRILLIANT NAME, BUT WAS THERE EVER ANY THOUGHT OF CHANGING THE NAME ALONG THE WAY, ESPECIALLY EARLY ON?

JIMMY URINE: Nope... and I will give special gifts to anyone who can guess exactly where I got the name.

MUEN: IS IT TRUE THAT THE FIRST ALBUM, "TIGHT" WAS MIXED ON ATARI-STYLE EQUIPMENT? WAS THIS BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T AFFORD MUCH ELSE, OR WAS IT PURELY VOLUNTARY?

JIMMY URINE: Firstly, "Tight" is the third album, ("Mindless Self Indulgence," and "Pink" were the first two), and secondly, It was voluntary. In fact, I still write on Atari ST computers... I go on Ebay and buy tons and keep them in storage, and every year or so when one dies on me, I chuck it and bust out a new one from storage... Always have and always will use them.

MUEN: WHAT HAS BEEN JIMMY URINE'S EXPERIENCE WITH INSANE CLOWN POSSE? DID YOU TOUR WITH THEM EVER? AND WE HEARD THAT BOTH STEVE, RIGH? AND JIMMY URINE LIKE TO INGEST URINE........ IS THIS TRUE?

JIMMY URINE: Easy questions, easy answers: yes and yes.

MUEN: WITH WHAT BAND, DID YOU HAVE THE BEST TOUR WITH IN THE PAST, AND WHY?

JIMMY URINE: Well we bring something to and bring something away from every tour we go on... sometimes it's friends, sometimes it's equipment, and sometimes it's life lessons... we never go out and come home the same exact band... we learn and teach, but never preach at the same time like a cosmic prism.

MUEN: OK SO THE BIG NEWS IS THE RELEASE OF "IF," OUT APRIL 29.... WE KNOW YOU'VE HAD A FEW EP'S AND THE PAST ALBUMS "TIGHT," "FRANKENSTEINS GIRLS WILL SEEM STRANGELY SEXY," "YOU'LL REBEL TO ANYTHING".. BUT WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THIS NEW RELEASE? ARE YOU EXCITED ABOUT THE RESULTS THUS FAR? AND HOW DO YOU THINK YOU'VE MATURED AS ARTISTS SINCE THE FIRST RECORDINGS?

JIMMY URINE: We've dematured as artists. We are far less mature than when we started.. isn't that why anyone does this for a living in the first place??? We are here to tell you how it is... our message is the anti-message... not everyone cares about what's going on outside of their own minds... there's a letter in the mail addressed to the past from the future, with no return address... people love to be ideological and they dogmatically do so... until they face the truth, and we are the truth.. and the truth is, "you don't know shit" (and neither do we) so don't say you do (and we won't either)... it's all up in the air. Yes, I am excited, can't you tell?

MUEN: WHAT SONGS ARE SLATED FOR A SINGLE, OR VIDEO?

JIMMY URINE: What??? Man, I don't even know what I'm doing tomorrow... I'm in Tokyo.. I better be playing a damn show!

MUEN: HOW ABOUT THE VIDEO FOR THE SONG TITLED, "MARK DAVID CHAPMAN" IS THAT SONG ON THE ALBUM, AND IS IT BEING DIRECTED BY THE SAME PERSON?

JIMMY URINE: The video for Mark David Chapman is being directed by a young whipper snapper we like to call Mike Diva, and he has a posse.

MUEN: SPEAKING OF TOURING TOGETHER, THE BIRTHDAY MASSACRE (plus COMBICHRIST AND LONDON AFTER MIDNIGHT, ON SOME DATES) WILL BE JOINING YOU ON THE U.S. LEG OF THE TOUR, THROUGHOUT APRIL, MAY AND JUNE. AND IT APPEARS YOU COLLABORATE AND DO REMIXES OF SONGS TOGETHER.. SOUNDS GREAT WHAT WE'VE HEARD, .. SO WHAT IS THE MOTIVATION BEHIND IT THOUGH, AND WHERE ARE THESE REMIXES AVAILABLE?

JIMMY URINE: Money, power, glory, fame and pussy is the motivation behind everything anyone in the world does, and anyone who denies it, is a lier... that being said, The Birthday Massacre & Combichrist remixes are both really great and are available on the "Never Wanted To Dance" remix single release by our friends at The End Records. You can buy it super cheap on their site as well.

MUEN: YOU PEOPLE MUST HAVE BEEN VERY HYPER-ACTIVE AS CHILDREN, AND ARE HOPELESS WORK-A-HOLICS WHO ARE NEVER SATISFIED WITH ANYTHING, RIGHT?

JIMMY URINE: The truth is that we are all control freaks who like to pay our rent at the most difficult time in the last hundred years to be a working band.

MUEN: LYN-Z DID THE COVER-ART ON SOME OF THE ALBUMS CORRECT? AND WHO DID THE COVER ART ON "IF"?

JIMMY URINE: Mindless as a whole, art direct all of our records... our hands-on design man, Jorden Haley, who does our merch designs and album grafixxx, created the front of "You Will Rebel To Anything" along with Lyn-z... Jhohan Vasquez did the art for the deluxe version of the record "IF" ... and we did the regular version of "IF".

MUEN: WHY DID FORMER MEMBERS, VANESSA YT, AND MARKUS J. EURINGER LEAVE MSI?

JIMMY URINE: I would totally leave this band if I could, wouldn't you?

MUEN: WHERE DO YOU SEE MSI IN 5 YEARS, DO YOU EXPECT TO STILL BE CRANKING OUT ALBUMS AND TOURING, OR WHAT?

JIMMY URINE: If I could look into the future, I would not waste it on looking at where this band will be in 5 years... I would look to see where the world will be in billions of geological years. Now that shit is far more interesting than some band's career.

MUEN: WHAT DO YOU LOVE MOST ABOUT YOUR LEGIONS OF FANS FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD?

JIMMY URINE: That they even exist.

MUEN: IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO MENTION?

JIMMY URINE: Just that the CD is out on the same day we start touring the states, and see you all on tour!

Photo by Hristo

IN THIS MOMENT's
Maria Brink

(Albany, NY)
Sept. 2008
By G. Cataline

MUEN: SO, YOU HAVE A BIG TOUR COMING UP BEGINNING OCT. 3RD, WITH FIVE FINGER DEATH PUNCH ON THE BILL... THAT IS SORT OF AN ODD COMBO, HOW DID YOU END UP WITH THEM?

Maria: I don't know how it came about initially, but I know that my guitar player, Chris, used to play in a band with Matt, their bass player. So there's a circle there, you know a circle of friends where people know eachother. They do good at active rock, and we do active rock, so it made sense. We met them, and they seem like really great people.

MUEN: WELL THEY ARE ONE OF OUR FAVORITE BANDS AS WELL, SO IT WAS GOOD TO HEAR THEY'D BE ON THE TOUR WITH YOU. IN THIS MOMENT ARE NO STRANGERS TO TOURING, INFACT YOU DID A LOT OF TOURING EVEN BEFORE BEING SIGNED TO CENTURY MEDIA, SO I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU, WITH ALL THIS CONSTANT TOURING, AND WITH THE NATURE OF YOUR VOCAL STYLE, IS IT TOUGH ON THE VOCAL CHORDS?

Maria: No, not necessarily. I've been pretty fortunate, I've never lost my voice due to touring. Singing always came natural to me. I lost my voice once because I had a throat infection and because of being sick, but never because of singing. So I've been pretty lucky I guess.

MUEN: DID YOU MOVE TO LOS ANGELES FROM ALBANY, NY AT THE AGE OF 18?

Maria: No, I was older than that. I was probably more around 21 or something like that.

MUEN: DID YOU PLAY IN A BAND BEFORE MOVING OUT TO L.A.?

Maria: Yeah, I played in a band. Did a few different things, but nothing that was solid or that I could start a career with.

MUEN: SO AT THE AGE OF 21 IS WHEN YOU HOOKED UP WITH CHRIS HOWORTH IN LOS ANGELES, AND I UNDERSTAND AT FIRST THEY WOULDN'T EVEN LET YOU AUDITION BECAUSE YOU WERE A GIRL...

Maria: Yeah at first Chris didn't really want to jam with a girl... I finally changed his mind, so it was fine.

MUEN: I HEARD YOU SORT OF STORMED YOUR WAY IN THERE AND "MADE" THEM LISTEN...

Maria: (Laughing) Yeah right... because I had been looking for a band and I was just really frustrated and it made me mad that this guy didn't even want to give me a chance, you know what I mean?

MUEN: WHERE WERE YOU WORKING AT THAT TIME?

Maria: At that time I was working at a bar, and that's where I first met this guy who was jamming with Chris at the time... and around that time I decided to throw this party at my house, and I was just playing piano and singing at that time. So I invited this guy and he eventually invited me to come over and audition for the band because they were looking for a singer.

MUEN: HOW LONG WERE YOU GUYS TOGETHER BEFORE YOU STARTED GETTING OUT AND DOING SHOWS?

Maria: Probably about six months.

MUEN: IN THIS MOMENT HAS COME A LONG WAY IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME... WHEN DID CENTURY MEDIA FIRST SHOW INTEREST IN YOU?

Maria: Well we had been talking to alot of labels at that time. We had a great manager, and he had already had a prior relationship with Century Media. So he kind of brought that about, and we immediately liked them and hit it off really well with the people there. So it ended up working out really good for us.

MUEN: DO YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF A RELIGIOUS TYPE BAND AT ALL?

Maria: Um no, not necessarily...

MUEN: NOT AT ALL?

Religion? No I don't think so. I mean we're spiritual people, and we all believe in God if that's what you're asking, but none of us are really into "religion." I have written songs about God or whatever, stuff like that, and have been through hard times.

MUEN: OK WELL LET'S PUT IT THIS WAY... HAVE YOU EVER BEEN CALLED A CHRISTIAN BAND?

Maria: I think sometimes people do think we are. I don't even know what makes you a Christian band. I mean we all believe in God and I write about God, and we have a spiritual side, but I don't think we're called a Christian band, not that I know of anyway (laughing).

MUEN: WELL YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY'LL SAY THAT U2 IS A CHRISTIAN BAND...

Maria: Yeah I don't know...

MUEN: SO THE NEW ALBUM CALLED "THE DREAM" IS DUE OUT SEPT. 30TH, AND FROM THE SOUNDS OF THE FIRST SINGLE "FOREVER," IT APPEARS THAT IT WILL BE A REALLY BIG PRODUCTION!

Maria: Yeah I love the new album!

MUEN: YOU WORKED WITH OZZY OSBOURNE'S PRODUCER ON THIS ONE I SEE...

Maria: Yep! Our manager works with him being he plays bass for Ozzy. We looked at some other producers, but we wound up working with Kevin, thank God. He's a really talented guy and he's just a great artist and person to work with. He brought out the very best in all of us, with the band and my voice.

MUEN: YEAH I AGREE! THE VOCALS ON "FOREVER" ARE AWESOME!

Maria: Yeah he really brought out the best and helped me with harmonies and all kinds of stuff.

MUEN: IN THIS MOMENT TRULY BEGAN AS A "DIY" BAND. BOOKING YOUR OWN TOURS AND SO FORTH... HOW DID YOU GO ABOUT FUNDING THE TOURS ETC.?

Maria: We did it basically from MySpace. We started getting a bunch of fans on MySpace and that led us to booking our own tours. We would get guarantees from the clubs that we played, and that's how we'd make it to the next town.

MUEN: SO MYSPACE WAS DEFINITELY A BIG HELP IN GETTING YOU STARTED.

Maria: Well I think MySpace can definitely help bands get off their feet, and it's a really good tool.

MUEN: OK I'M GOING TO GET INTO SOME PERSONAL STUFF, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER IF YOU DON'T WANT TO, BUT IT WAS MENTIONED IN THE PAST THAT YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH CHILD ABUSE, AND YOU WERE ALSO PREGNANT AT THE AGE OF 15. SO YOU HAD A PRETTY ROUGH PERIOD GROWING UP.. YOU PROBABLY HAVE A SOLID CONNECTION WITH ALOT OF YOUR FANS WHO MAY HAVE EXPERIENCED THE SAME SORT OF STUFF.

Maria: Yeah.

MUEN: ARE ALOT OF YOUR SONGS INSPIRED BY YOUR OWN PERSONAL LIFE EXPERIENCES?

Maria: Yeah, alot of it is from real life experiences. There's one song on the new album that was wrote about something that I haven't personally experienced, but it's something that I use my imagination to write, so it's not always about something I've personally experienced, especially with this new album where I tried to branch out a bit. It has to be something that I'm passionate about though. I think it's important to sort of feel what someone is singing about and not just like a song because the voice sounds pretty, you know what I mean? Like Johnny Cash for instance, where you can feel the emotion in his voice. I just think that's really important for a singer.

MUEN: WELL YOU DEFINITELY HAVE THAT IN YOUR VOICE. I THINK THAT'S WHAT REALLY SETS YOU APART, AND OFCOURSE THE MUSICIANS IN THE BAND ARE REALLY TIGHT AND ARE GREAT MUSICIANS..

Maria: Thanks, Yeah and they are all great, I love 'em!

MUEN: IS IN THIS MOMENT THE FIRST REAL BAND YOU'VE ALL PLAYED IN THEN?

Maria: Yep.

MUEN: WHAT WAS YOUR REASON FOR NOW MOVING BACK TO NEW YORK, AFTER YOU'VE LIVED IN L.A.?

Maria: Because with the touring and the fact that I travel so much, and my son doesn't like to be on the road. He'd rather be with his friends, and.. be normal. So while I'm on tour, he can be home with my mom, family and his friends. So yeah I live home with my son so he doesn't have to be traveling constantly.

MUEN: "BEAUTIFUL TRAGEDY" WAS YOUR HIT SONG OFF THE PREVIOUS ALBUM, AND IT PEEKED AT 7 ON THE BILLBOARD "HEAT SEEKERS CHART"... WHAT SONGS ARE YOUR PERSONAL FAVORITES FROM THAT ALBUM?

Maria: Well "Beautiful Tragedy" was one I loved... "He Said Eternity" was another one of my favorites, and probably "Legacy Of Odio."

MUEN: OTHER THAN "FOREVER," WHAT OTHER SONGS OFF THE NEW ALBUM ARE YOUR FAVORITES SO FAR?

Maria: Hmm well "All For You" and a song called "Mechanical Love" and... being it's a fresh brand new album I think they are all my favorites. And then in a year from now I'm sure there will only be a few that are my favorites (laughing).. that I still like, you know?

MUEN: YEAH, AFTER SINGING THEM LIVE FOR A YEAR...

Maria: Right, if you still love it after singing it 600 times then it's one of your favorites.

MUEN: DO YOU EVER GET TIRED OF SINGING "BEAUTIFUL TRAGEDY"?

Maria: No, I never get tired of that song yet, because it's always sort of a new fresh energy every night. Because it's a new crowd, I'm definitely not jaded with that one yet.

MUEN: TELL US ABOUT THE TOUR TO JAPAN AND CHINA, WAS IT ALL THAT YOU EXPECTED?

Maria: Yeah right after the Ozzy tour, we went to Asia and Japan on our own. It was everything I expected, and it was amazing! It was great to meet new people and experience new cultures. We couldn't believe that there was even all those people at the shows. Here we are in another country and it was insane how all these people knew who we were. It was awesome! I want to keep traveling, and travel the world.

MUEN: JAPAN ALWAYS SEEMS TO BE RECEPTIVE TO AMERICAN ROCK.

Maria: Yeah they are, and I love Tokyo.

MUEN: SO JOHNATHAN, THE BASIST FOR DEVILDRIVER IS YOUR BOYFRIEND... DO YOU MIND TALKING ABOUT THAT?

Maria: No I don't mind. I met him in Europe while we were over there doing a bunch of festivals, and DevilDriver and In This Moment were sharing a tour bus. So that's how we met... and we fell for one another (laughs)..

MUEN: IS IT TOUGH BEING IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH A MUSICIAN FROM ANOTHER BAND, ESPECIALLY BEING THAT DEVILDRIVER TOURS SO OFTEN THEMSELVES? YOU PROBABLY DON'T SEE MUCH OF EACHOTHER...

Maria: Yeah it's hard because we travel alot, but the cool thing about it is that we both "do the same thing" and so we can understand it better, you know what I mean? Where with someone who doesn't travel alot, it's alot harder for them to "get it" and understand, and to be able to deal with it. But it is hard though... that is what the song "Forever" is about actually.

MUEN: OH IT IS? THAT'S INTERESTING.. OK SO WHAT ABOUT YOUR GUITARIST CHRIS... I HEAR THAT YOU TWO DON'T ALWAYS GET ALONG..

Maria: Haha, he's actually one of my best friends in the whole world. I actually only have about 3 best friends, that are really close, and he is one of them... But he is also like a brother and we're both Sagittarius so we can definitely get into it sometimes. I have nothing but love and respect for him though. It's just that sometimes when it comes to music we are both vary passionate people and are sometimes at war, but we get through it, (laughing).

MUEN: I HEAR YOU PAINT AND THAT YOU'RE ALSO INTERESTED IN ACTING?

Maria: Yeah I paint a little, and eventually would like to get into acting more someday.

MUEN: TELL US ABOUT THE EXTRAS PEOPLE CAN GET WHEN THEY PRE-ORDER "THE DREAM".

Maria: When you pre-order the album you also get a DVD which contains a long interview with the band.

MUEN: WHAT DOES THE RABBIT SIGNIFY IN THE ARTWORK FOR THAT?

Maria: The whole thing is just sort of Alice In Wonderland(y)

MUEN: WE LOVE THE PHOTOGRAPHY THAT THE BAND HAS. WHO DOES THE PHOTOGRAPHY FOR YOU?

Maria: I think his name is Hristo.(spelling?)

MUEN: SO ANY LAST WORDS? ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO END WITH?

Maria: Well just that we're really excited about the new album, and can't wait to hear what everybody's take is on it. It's definitely alot more melodic than the last album. Screaming has always sort of come easy for me, and singing is more of a challenge for me, so I really just wanted to be more melodic on this album and challenge myself more. There's still screaming, but alot more singing this time. I'm really happy with it. I just hope everyone else likes it, right? (laughs).

MUEN: I'M SURE THEY WILL.. THANKS FOR THE INTERVIEW!


STEVER

(Los Angeles / Ontario, Canada)

myspace.com/stever

Interview by Macavity

The music of Stever is comprised of one woman, Karen Stever. We had the opportunity to speak with Karen about her music and her artistic talents that go hand in hand with her music. We also spoke with her about some other projects and outlets for her creativity and gained an insight into her life, her philosophies and her music most of all.

MUEN: Hi Karen! Thanks for talking to MUEN about your artistry and your music.

I'm very happy to talk to you. YOU ROCK!

MUEN: For the two or three that are NOT friends of yours on MySpace, can you explain a little about your musical style and what your sound is like?

The music I often describe as female vocals set over a heavy, orchestral backdrop. I like to think of it as unapologetic and brutal.

MUEN: In mentioning MySpace, I need to ask how you manage all that you do... for instance, you have two profiles and numerous blogs?

My work allows me to have my laptop beside me so I can be online while files d'ld/transfer or while I do back-ups. I also produce other music and do digital editing as well. MySpace is my social pipeline outside.

MUEN: Speaking of blogs and MySpace, you have mentioned many times your connection with fans and people in general about your issues with depression and management of it now. How do all the comments affect your writing of music for yourself and others?

I adore the people I have met online. It's wonderful to think we are not alone, so that does help me. I like to think writing and sharing music not only inspires others, but I learn a lot from people too. It feeds my spirit. I don't however feel any of that affects my music writing. It's quite separate.

MUEN: I must admit to not seeing another artist so prominent on top friends, on so many individual's pages. How effective a tool has MySpace been to getting your music known about and do you use other mediums as well?

I am? Geeze, I wish more pages would load with a bit more ease... I missed that altogether. I am fortunate to have found so many like-minded people online who think like I do, so I think the music finds the people who relate to it. Any online site is whatever you make it to be. I'm not into music promotion so much as I am just forming relationships for the purpose of surviving life. Being alone in our thoughts SUCKS!

MUEN: One main connection with your music and your fans seems to be your comments to their pages. You send comments with quotes ranging from Phyllis Diller to Einstein to many philosophers. Do you choose the quotes and how do you choose what is to be used? And most of all why do you do so?

Quotes are better for staying with me for the day than an entire monologue by someone. While the time, tested and true ones seem to be my favorites, I get them from anywhere. I do want to add that I may not even agree with the general philosophies of someone I am quoting, but they were quoted one time as saying something smart. I probably wouldn't quote Hitler or someone who would make everyone question why I am sending a quote even if he had a moment somewhere in his life that he said something meaningful. Not sure of what a meaningful quote by him would be...hmmm...let me pull the political move and call in a lifeline and phone a friend. HA! I send them purely because of how they make me feel. I would hope others would also get something from them.

MUEN: With the blogs and information that you generously share, what is one thing they don't know about Karen Stever that they might be interested in knowing?

Oh I don't assume anything in my world is very interesting. I'm sure most people don't know that I spend too much time searching puppy videos on youtube. I want to retire somewhere with a whole fleet of PUPPIES! When they grow up, I'll add more puppies. The other thing most people don't know is what a boy I am. I don't like shopping (unless it's for vintage things), the color pink isn't in my home and I don't wear jewelry except for the odd necklace. Puppies may be the most girly thing about me, but lots of guys like them too.

MUEN: You have mentioned before that your CD "Playground Isolator" was a way of getting pain out of you or you used that pain as a muse? Is the entire CD based on that or how would you describe it?

Pain was definitely converted on this one. That is for sure! But I generally write not knowing where it comes from. I don't hope for ideas to come, it's all the time. My problem currently is having too many ideas and no way to manage them all properly. When the mind is foggy like that, it's hard to know which way to run! But "Playground Isolator" came from intense hurting that I originally had no intention of letting anyone hear.

MUEN: One of the most interesting parts I have seen about "Playground Isolator" aside from the great tunes is that someone can order it signed by you and you have offered to let them pay when they can. Why have you chosen to do this and how many have actually taken you up on this and not paid?

What's interesting is everyone does pay. The people who haven't are more recent purchases where I have specifically told them to only pay when it works for them. Economic times are brutal and people are hurting. I'd rather the CD be in their player than in a box at my place. People appreciate the trust and are fine about paying for it. I often say, if it was a $2000 Ebay item, I'd be getting payment in the PayPal account first! lol But we're talking $15 here. Not much of a risk factor.

MUEN: "Dream Baby Dream" is your newest song. It's a great song and one of my new favorites. What inspired it and is this the final "cathartic" piece from you?

While it's new to be posted online, 'Funeral Mute' was the last piece I wrote on the record. 'Dream Baby Dream' was enormously difficult to write because I imagined myself lying lifeless in a psychiatric hospital and I would be visiting myself there. I noticed how sad I was and wrote the words towards myself. I would place it more in the middle of those difficult times.

MUEN: What are your muses now and how do you use them for all the projects you work on?

My muses need to form a straight line and wait their turn! I have an influx of ideas and currently don't require much inspiration these days. Writing has become like breathing. I don't dispute that craft is involved, but if you asked me to write something on flowers this afternoon, I don't need to go to the garden. But, I do however become inspired to go write something after seeing a live show or an old flick on the tube. No one person or thing does it.

MUEN: Speaking of projects, you mentioned in one of your blogs that you have written over 800 songs some of which have been for others. Are there any we would recognize or artists we should have a listen to?

YAY a chance to plug Souljourners! hahaha They are a young band I spent a ton of time and did artist development with them as well as co-writing. Their 74 minute record was a monster that I am very proud of!

MUEN: Do you enjoy making music for yourself or for others more now?

I would love to have the opportunity to share something that really bugs me with others. I adore it when it's HONEST. There is no greater feeling than being honest about art. But my issue has been with 'ghost-writing'. I don't think I am going to continue to be an invisible credit on someone else's CD because a label or artist needs their singer to look impressive to their audience. Too much of this is going on in the music biz and I am stopping it. It's a mistake I don't feel good about. Not because I require the credit, but based solely on the fact that most people read credits in the CD and if it says the singer is the writer, the listener wants to believe that. When it's not truthful, I am not comfortable with it. Generally, it's difficult to write honest music if a lie is going to be perpetuated. So that part I am done with. But I am always writing with others. It's not that I won't write someone a song, but there needs to be honest representation and the audience doesn't like having the wool pulled over their eyes. Writing for myself is a different thing altogether. I write to heal, to be creative, but not for others. I share it and enjoy the impact it ends up having, but the purposes are different.

MUEN: I can not help but ask, after mentioning others that you also work with, if your production work is more important, and are you moving more to the production/writing part of your career?

I try to keep them separate rather than picking or choosing.

"My work keeps my art pure because I am not tainted by it having to make money. People make bad decisions with their music when it has to make them rich."

There are many aspects in my work I love with production, digital editing, playing other instruments etc, but I don't think I have to necessarily give up either one. I will write music for as long as my life allows. I love it too much to just stop it. I like the idea of starting a new CD and am very excited about it.

MUEN: You have said you are humbled by the response to your music and that people actually enjoy it. Is that your main inspiration for making music? Or is it to get across thoughts and ideas to people?

No, while I certainly get excited about the affects the music is having on people, I never consider the listener while writing music. I just do what feels right to me at the time.

MUEN: With that in mind and over 800 songs written so far, how do you write your songs for yourself and is it a different process for others you write for?

Well, in my own writing, I know me already and so I can make bold moves based on my personality. It takes way more time with others because I feel the responsible thing to do when writing for or with another artist is to really get to know them first. Then the process varies based on each song. I don't have any one approach I can share. I like things that just happen organically.

MUEN: With so many songs written, when might we see a new CD from you and how different will it be from the first?

Ah yes, very excited although it won't be ready for awhile because of its density. It will be intense but I am writing it with a clear head. Playground Isolator was painful to write because the cloudiness of my thoughts inhibited me from writing as effortlessly as I know how to. It will be more story-based, perhaps more conceptual with more musical experimentation. I felt the clearest while writing 'Funeral Mute', so it will most likely follow the natural vein of where I was at with that, but again, with a full story in mind.

MUEN: You have two videos that you have done for your songs from "Playground Isolator" and you act in them, is that another of your talents that we are to see more of? Any other videos planned for this CD?

I tell myself almost daily, "Karen, get another video done!" It's only time that is stopping me. I love playing in the editor with video...so, soon!!! It was ultra cool seeing 'Ride of Your Life' set to the Sin City footage that someone put together. Perhaps that song will see film one of these days and it will be done for me! I'll hop on a motorcycle and do the video. LOL Geeze, did I speak too soon on that one? lol

MUEN: When might we expect to see a tour or live performances?

I miss playing live. This is another time issue. I adore it, but I need to have the proper time to do it.

MUEN: In thinking of the videos and a live performance, you mention Madonna and many others as inspirations to you. Is she one that you get inspired by for your "chameleon like" image and appearance?

I DID? Wow I must have been having a Madonna day! Oh maybe in my list of singers? For the most part I enjoy the details of performance and subtleties like Stevie Nicks or Lisa Dalbello. They are women who clearly took pain and turned it into something. My chameleon-like appearance came from my theater background and love for dress-up. The character just needs to visually represent the art.

MUEN: So it's not an identity crisis, but rather an artistic expression. What is the meaning behind the image we see now most prominently and what is next in image and songs since they seem to go together and have a purpose?

The Funeral Mute which is the main character from the Playground Isolator CD was inspired by the 1922 silent film, "Oliver Twist". His sadness made him an ideal Mute for a Funeral Parlor. I immediately identified with the look and fashioned the clothing after him. The next image will be a representation of the story, but is not fully realized right now. I don't worry about the look too much while writing. Those are small details for later on. The name won't change. It took me some time to get my name back and I'm proud of what my Daddy left me.

MUEN: Is there anything we have not covered that you would like people to know about?

I think you posed some wonderful questions. Thanks so much!

MUEN: Thanks so much Karen for the opportunity to speak with you and gather some insight into the woman behind the amazing music of Stever.

SKUMLOVE
(Hollywood, CA)
By Jeanne Thomas (JET)
Oct. 2008

MUEN: Is it true that Skum Love is your real name? Are you related to Courtney?

HaaaHaaaa! My father and mother call me Skum and Love is my last name so Yea it is. No I am not related to mentally ill whore bags.

MUEN: What/ who was your most favorite band to play/ tour with /open for?

Good Question….Each show has it’s best moments from opening for Professional Murder Music on our first show to playing with Genitorturers and God head at the Whisky a Go Go to sharing the stage with Static-X and Type-O-Negative at the House of Blues to Opening for Danzig on the Blackest of the Black tour. They all were great!

MUEN: Will you always stick to your industrial type sound? Have you ever experimented with other types of music?

We do what we do. The industrial label is just that, a label. We been called he AC/DC of industrial Metal or Cyber Punk and Electro Goth as well as industrial metal. Some songs are heavy some are more electronic and a lot of the new stuff we just wrote is very rock orientated with a ton of guitar. What you see is what you get. There is already a Mr. Bungle and System of a Down, They do the experimental stuff perfect.

MUEN: So are you excited for your part in Danzigs short “She loves only men” ? you been practicing your part?

Haahaa! I already fimed it. I look so normal in it. I am tied to an office chair with a ball gag in my mouth and a sexy red head hovering over me with an electric carving saw. I think I lived that part hahah! There are photos on the danzig-verotik.com site

MUEN: What’s it been like playing and hanging with Glen Danzig? You guys ever get in trouble?

He is one fuckin down dude. He is as dark as you would think, as cold as hell frozen over, but he also likes to laugh and crack jokes and I think I am the only person still alive that can bust his balls back. We have a great relationship I been working with him since I was 20 and met him when I was 15. He has taught me a lot. I owe him so much for paving the way for DIY music.

MUEN: Tell us about the new cd “Songs of Lust and Corrosion” What can we expect to hear from it?

Well it’s a remastered version of our last two CDs together on one with some remixes and it has a little of everything in it. We started out with our "best of" album first. Hahaha!

MUEN: How are people responding to it? Are you getting decent sales and feedback from it?

Not sure on sales, but I have two shelves of mail orders that have been waiting for the CD and we get about 200 to 300 plays a day on myspace and on the top 10 on a few internet music sites. Besides that we haven’t seen any money or anything, but the Label, Misfortune Records seems to be happy with it. Now I can’t wait to do the next CD. I already have like 6 or 7 songs worked out.

MUEN: Who produced the new cd?

Roman Marisak did it all. Been working with him for about 7 or 8 years now on music and what is great is he gets where I am coming from with my music.

MUEN: How is the new label working out?

Misfortune is cool. They are still a young label and take things very seriously. We bumped heads on the artwork and some songs, but we finally got it done. I am a Do It Yourself kind of guy, I am a Hollywood punk and like stuff dirty and raw and they are very much by the book. So it is a real yen and yang situation.

MUEN: Who wrote the music for the band? Is it harder to write music with all the drum samples in it, compared to writing more conventional music?

Well on this CD I wrote 95% of all the songs along with my original guitarist Robyn Sin and Roman turning what I was thinking into some kool stuff. A lot of former members recorded on this CD, but I wrote all of it and let them throw in their own flavor with their sound. I usually sit down with my roland groove and write some beats, bass lines and keyboard stuff. The beginning of it sounds like some dark disco music, but after that - when the Robyn’s guitars are put with it and Roman picks it apart, you get what you hear now. With this version of Skumlove it’s more like a real band and the writing is becoming more organic with me bringing some riffs and phases and the electronics will come last. So it’s a big change.

MUEN: who wrote the lyrics and what are they usually based on? Lyrics are all me and usually has to do with rebellion and sexual innuendos. I am a very sexual person and a rebellious kind of person and a lot of that got me in trouble in the past so now I write about it instead of doing it. It’s therapy.

MUEN: Are any of you working on any side projects?

Well DB and Rattan are brothers and came from a band called Heroes of the F.D.E.R.A.T.I.ON. and they still do stuff on occasions. I have no time as Skumlove and my family life keeps me busy 24/7.

MUEN: What do you all do for fun?

This is it. This is my fun. I know Rattan likes to read graphic novels and stuff and DB goes to school and hits the clubs a lot more. Ummm Gina sits in his studio with a bottle and his guitar and constantly is playing, and Draco, the newest member is kinda like me he’s a family man and likes to go out for a drink once in a while, but we all like getting together and jamming on stage together and we drink and joke and have a good time.

MUEN: What’s on the horizon for Skumlove as far as tours and videos? Any new merchandise available? Were can we get it?

I am going out for the month of October on the Blackest of the Black tour and the other guys will have a break then we are working on a west coast tour in December with Hanzel Und Gretyl As well as our own tour in the beginning of the year. We are trying to figure out what the next video will be, but looking at maybe "Welcome to my Hell." I want to do it very Gonzo style and run into churches and film some crazy shit, and get out before we get arrested lol!

MUEN: Is there anything you would like to say in closing, to your fans or myspace pals?

Just please go get the album even if you already have downloaded it, stole it. or what ever... support good music because there is a lot of shiit our there! But when you find something good it’s like treasure! And thanks to all my sinners from www.thechurchofthenewperversion.com for all your help and loyalty. It means so much. To all our old and new fans, we do this for you and promise to bring you nothing but the best! Thanks to MUEN Mag. for this interview and helping get the word out about independent music. We Dig you Like a Grave!




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