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4 or 5 Magicians
Alternative / Indie / Powerpop

"magicians, not musicians!"

Brighton,
United Kingdom

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   4 or 5 Magicians: General Info
Member Since10/5/2005
Band Website4or5magicians.co.uk
Band Members

DAN ORMSBY - Vocals, Words, Guitar, Drums, Persuasive Propaganda

SAM CLARKE - Bass, Guitar, Sensible Suggestions

SAM MOORE - Guitar, Philosophical Reflection

ILJA GRAY - Drums, Questionable Impressions

MIKE LORD - Keyboards, Story Boards

Influences

MAIN OBVIOUS MUSICAL INFLUENCES : Guided By Voices / REM / Nirvana / Dinosaur Jr / The Flaming Lips / Pavement / Sebadoh / Built To Spill / The Pixies / Mercury Rev / Meat Puppets / Beck / Sonic Youth / Television / Weezer / Ben Folds Five / The Presidents Of The United States Of America / The New Pornographers / The Decemberists / Grandaddy / Eels / The Walkmen / Spoon / The Webb Brothers / The Strokes / (early) Everclear / (early) Smashing Pumpkins / Wilco / Neutral Milk Hotel / Royal Trux / Archers Of Loaf / The Breeders / Ben Kweller / Hockey Night.

BUT ALSO, AND LESS OBVIOUSLY : Fugazi / Rites Of Spring / Husker Du / Oneida / Dead Meadow / The Minutemen / Mission Of Burma / Polvo / Girls Against Boys / Queens Of The Stone Age / At The Drive-In / Tool / ...And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead / Slint / The National / Karate / Malajube / Fiery Furnaces / Bobby Conn / Hanson (!) / Mates Of State / The Jai-Alai Savant / Clouddead, Themselves and the Anticon label / TV On The Radio / The Modern Lovers / Jeff Buckley / Elliott Smith / Bright Eyes / Ben Lee / Tom Waits.

AND EVEN, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, SOME BRITISH BANDS! : The Beatles / Mclusky / The Fall / Mogwai / Gang Of Four / Blur / Seafood / The Longpigs / the first three albums by ... Idlewild, Radiohead, Ash, Snow Patrol, Biffy Clyro, Terrorvision / Therapy? / Super Furry Animals / Mansun / Kenickie / The Stone Roses / Six By Seven / The Futureheads / Scott Walker / Jake Thackray.

AND, OF COURSE, OUR FRIENDS AND CONTEMPORARIES : Johnny Foreigner / Los Campesinos / Distophia / Jetplane Landing / Blood Red Shoes / Esiotrot / Laura Hocking / Favours For Sailors / The Young Playthings / My Psychoanalyst / Popular Workshop / Paul Hawkins ... and all the other ace bands we know, have played with, or are doing great music right now!

Sounds LikeAll of the above / none of the above.
Record LabelThis Is Fake DIY
Type of LabelIndie





   Upcoming Shows ( view all )
Jul 25 2008 8:00P
LOUTH Cobbles Bar Louth, Lincolnshire
Jul 31 2008 8:00P
NORWICH The Queen Charlotte Norwich
Aug 1 2008 8:00P
LONDON Industry Shoreditch, London
Aug 3 2008 4:00P
LONDON Brixton Windmill - full Guided By Voices cover set @ totally AWESOME all dayer w/ FREE BBQ! London
Aug 7 2008 8:00P
BRIGHTON Freebutt w/ -a+M, (+two more TBC) Brighton
Aug 8 2008 8:00P
SOUTHAMPTON Joiners Southampton
Aug 9 2008 8:00P
BOURNEMOUTH The Gander w/ Dutch Husband Bournemouth
Aug 10 2008 8:00P
WEYMOUTH Lazy Lizard w/ They That Cried Wolf Weymouth, South
Aug 13 2008 8:00P
BRISTOL The Junction w/ The Jelas Bristol

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   About 4 or 5 Magicians

!!OUR NEW SINGLE IS OUT TODAY - MONDAY APRIL 21st!! Our new double a-side single Change The Record / Ideal Man is out today through This Is Fake DIY Records. You can digitally download the single through i-Tunes and the like, or order a nice shiny 7" vinyl from www.thisisfakediyrecords.co.uk ... www.banquetrecords.co.uk ... www.hmv.co.uk and probably some other places! !!OUR NEW SINGLE IS OUT TODAY - MONDAY APRIL 21st!!

Here is a live video of Change The Record performed in London on April 19th 2008. Thanks to Aaron and Ciaran for this!

!! BOOK US !! We are available for shows more or less anywhere and at any time so long as our costs are covered. Just send us a message here or email fourorfivemagicians[at]hotmail[dot]co[dot]uk !! BOOK US !!

!! BUY OUR OLD SINGLE !! You can still order our single (released October 2007) Forever On The Edge from Alcopop! though I guess there aren't too many left so snap one up while you can! It's a 4 track, 3" CD limited to 500. Tracklisting :

1. Forever On The Edge

2. Conversational Karate

3. Orderly Queue

4. Tom Waits' Blues

Do it here :

!! THIS IS OUR RADIO 1 SESSION !! This was recorded in June 2007 by Dan on Drums, Guitar and Voice, Jon Wood on Bass (now of Epideme) and Matt Hayward on Guitar (now of Favours For Sailors). Enjoy! :


Huw Stephens Introducing...on Radio 1

!! SOME PRESS LOVIN' !!

Steve Lamacq's New Favourite Band and Change The Record "Such great song construction!" Lamacq Single Of The Week May 28th - June 4th 2008

Also, about Forever On The Edge - "I just really like the juxtaposition of the sort of dismissiveness and confidence rubbing-up against each other...a clattering pop-noise that weaves the singer along" - Steve Lamacq, Radio 1

"Really, really exciting" + "SOOOO SOOOO GOOD!" + "brilliant" + various other superlatives - Huw Stephens, Radio 1

"more than a bit special" - Playmusic Magazine Unsigned Indie/Rock band of the year 2008

"At last a believeable British retort to the drawling rambles of Stephen Malkmus. Think Hefner's Darren Hayman fronting Guided By Voices. Ace." Music Week

"the sort of lo-fi attack jam that Kurt Cobain would have creamed over" - Rocksound

"very nearly stirring enough to make you put some pants on and run down to Capital FM with a big gun. Marvellously cynical alt.rock grubbiness. More please!" - The Fly

"‘Forever On The Edge’ not only boasts a loveable melody so missed from the chord-driven NME crowd , but also a contender for the best lyric of the year ... Lo-fi indie rock at its best" - 8/10 - drownedinsound.com

"inherently fantastic" - rockfeedback.com

SINGLE OF THE MONTH Oct 2007 - "a monumentally fuzz drenched summer anthem for the slacker generation missing the greats!" - subba-cultcha.com

DEMO OF THE WEEK May 24th 2007 - "a promising potentially explosive alt.rock indie-pop X factor edge of their own" --- AND --- SINGLE OF THE WEEK Oct 18th 2007 - "A fine fine debut slice of English alt.rock ... we want everyone to form an orderly queue and pin all your hopes on these four or five fine magicians" - Organart

"This is an impressive collision of relevant underground styles from a young band with seemingly no shortage of energy or ideas" 4.5/5 manchestermusic.co.uk

"They're magic!" - SoundsXP.com

Check out everyone in our top friends too, they are all nearly as good as we are! But nowhere near as good as this man :


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Mark Cunliffe - Dandelion Radio





Jul 22 2008 1:29 PM

Thanks for approving my request :-)

Welcome to the Mark Cunliffe’s portion of Dandelion Radio

www. dandelionradio. com – the online radio station inspired by John Peel
Hamish





Jul 21 2008 3:52 PM

Haha, how come your Scottish gigs never seem to work out?! You need to make it to Edinburgh especially, the gigs are better there, and keep me notified of any single/ep/album releases.
=)
Hamish





Jul 21 2008 6:18 AM

Hey guys, you gigging it up in Scotland anytime soon? I really wanna see you live now, =(.
You getting an album set up anytime in the near future?
WILLIAM - album out now!





Jul 17 2008 12:15 PM

Great gig last night guys. I'm just about to listen to your album. Sorry for the drunken hugs.

mark
x
This is Tomorrow





Jul 17 2008 5:16 AM

last night was tres fun chaps, pleasure having u in brum..cu soon,xx
Kopek





Jul 16 2008 8:59 AM

Next weekend we're playing another special shelsmusic show, with our old friends Secondsmile and our new friends Everyone to the Anderson and Junkboy.
We just got the finished poster so thought we'd share:


Secondsmile, Everyone to the Anderson, Junkboy and Kopek in Brighton


There's a last. fm event here, a facebook event here and a google map to Westhill hall here.
It should be a great night complete with projectors and cake, as well as free handmade shelsmusic CDs for the first twenty people to arrive which look pretty special and feature lots of amazing bands including Secondsmile, Everyone to the Anderson, Junkboy, Kopek, Sons of Noel and Adrian, *shels

Hero Machine *Bar Academy This Fri!!*





Jul 16 2008 7:05 AM

ah damn!!! im afraid i have no money to get there, the others have gone to bennacassiam so they cant attend either,gunna be a wicked night aswell, ill see what i can do money wise actually and ill try come.
xxx
BABIES!





Jul 14 2008 3:25 PM

Hello

Brighton’s premier alternative disco returns this FRIDAY 18th JULY with the hotly tipped FLASHGUNS and the rock n’ soul diamonds CRANE BROTHERS playing live.

Open till 2am with late entry and DJs dropping bombs of the musical variety to make you dance ‘til your shoes cry for help.

Gonna be a good ‘un!

Photobucket
Horseplay





Jul 14 2008 2:54 AM

hey guys. I like your sound a lot. I am mates with your drummer and he sent me your way.

Our night, well what more is there to say, erm, its clubbing for grown ups. We have had poetry slams, loop station noise scapes, bands, novelists. We hope to have more in the future. We are looking out for live art, magic, more comedy and visual artists.

All round entertainment sounds fantastic. I would have to check you out first to see if I was completely entertained.
Ha!
WILLIAM - album out now!





Jul 13 2008 6:13 AM

yeah cool. If you get the chance, come and see us.

Mark
x
GeordieLee





Jul 11 2008 7:05 AM

Sunderland Live is an exciting new programme of FREE live music concerts taking place this summer. In addition to Sunderland’s already successful series of events and festivals programme, up and coming musicians will be showcasing their talent at three new music events taking place at Cliffe Park on Sunday 20th July, Sunday 10th August and Bank Holiday Monday 25th August.

For more information go to http://groups. myspace. com/sunderland
WILLIAM - album out now!





Jul 10 2008 11:46 AM

looking forward to finally playing with you guys! I still have your very first demo ya know!

Mark
x
Samu.co.uk --- D Z Greene





Jul 10 2008 3:45 AM

Thanks for last night guys.
Despite all the shambles, you pulled through and put on another great show.
Cheers.
ICE, SEA, DEAD PEOPLE





Jul 9 2008 4:11 PM

awesome. it's going to be a really, REALLY great night now then!!
xxx
Jumping Ships





Jul 8 2008 8:02 AM

good set the other night guys.
ta, x
laura sings liver





Jul 7 2008 5:12 AM

Ha ha ha hahahaha ha ha ha
I QUIT MY JOB TO BE AN ANTIFOLK SINGER.

Chuckle chuckle, what will they think of next.

I am now elated and somewhat TERRIFIED.

Fancy a joint gig at some point?

Also, as ever, gissa clang if you're in the Smoke.
x L
POPP MUSIC